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The Discretion Of The Seven Thunders
The Discretion Of The Seven Thunders
By Brother David Curtman Sr.
The much-debated and controversial subject of the Seven Thunders is a topic that is worthy for each Bible-believing Christian to consider and to know just exactly where they stand in this late hour. Either the Seven Thunders have uttered their voices or they have not. I personally believe that they are yet to utter their voices to the Bride of Christ to give her that degree of The Faith needed to rapture her up from this planet into the Spiritual realm awaiting, and also to present to her a list of final instructions as to what and where and how she is to plan and take care of the many last-minute details! In other words, to leave her earthly house in order! The Seven will THUNDER forth His message to her in the respect that it will be a POWERFUL message. Powerful enough to raise the dead in Christ and to give us rapturing faith! But, it will also be a discrete message, hard and even impossible for many to hear.
I am writing this essay to hopefully shine some insight as I see it and know it, on this extremely important subject. I will use the Holy Scriptures first, then, the natural marriage setting and also some plain-old logic and common sense to try and make my points.
Firstly, let us remember that God is not the author of confusion. The rapture of the church will not be anything like the popular 'Left-Behind' series of Christian-world movies. Therefore my main point is that a group of people waiting to be raptured-up, away and out of this world as we know it, will by all means need to be in complete order and unity as to what exactly is going to take place just before and on that glorious day. Yes, the Omnipotent Great God could very well speak any one word at any time He chooses and we would all be raptured in the twinkling of an eye, but we know that He is a God who prepares (I go to prepare a place for you). He has waited over 6000 years for this moment, and He will surely have His bride made-ready even to the very last minute and menial details!
I believe that the Seven Thunders are seven specially annointed men who are living right here among us today. It is very likely that you or I have crossed paths with one or more of these soon to be annointed and appointed men. It is highly possible that our 5-fold ministers who travel to many countries, have had fellowship with one, some or even all seven of those wonderous men. Their time is surely at hand, their ministries very, very close!
The main thing to remember about the Seven Thunders is that the words they will utter to the Bride are not written anywhere, never have they been written, and probably never will be. They are a secret known only to God. We do know that the Lord shared them with John the beloved (who types the Bride) in 96 AD on the Isle of Patmos. Also, we know that Brother Branham seen something in reference to the Seven Thunders on March 24th 1963, but as he told the congregation three times on page 512 of the seals book paragraph 323, "I couldn't make it out, I couldn't tell just what it said, but I know that it was them Seven Thunders uttering themselves right close together, But I couldn't make it out". Thus, Brother Branham did not know what they uttered, that is a fact. Only God knows, that is also a fact.
In Zechariah chapters 3 and 4, we see a type of the Seven Thunders carrying out their role through Joshua the high priest (a type of Christ) and seven men who are WONDERED AT. The Lord tells Joshua that He will ENGRAVE THE GRAVING of the stone (the word) set before him, and then He says, They shall see the plummet (stone of tin, I believe to represent the capstone ministry) in the hand of Zerubbabel (also a type of Christ) with those seven! That is to say, He will reveal a mystery, expound the meaning. He will write on their hearts the revelation to them at that time. At what time? In the day of small things, when I bring forth my servant the BRANCH! (Zech 3:8, 4:10).
In the natural church-wedding, when the ceremony comes to a conclusion as the bride and groom have exchanged their vows and share a kiss, there are certain details of things that the rest of the wedding guests will not have knowledge of, they will share no part of; Intimate things that only the bride and groom have discussed and planned-out involving the consumation of their special day. These things only the bride and groom share AS ONE. With that in mind, wouldn't it be reasonable to think that these same little INTIMATE SECRETS would be shared with our bridegroom on that very special day? And that some very discrete plans and details have been worked out and discussed just prior to the big event? That would surely make sense to me, especially knowing that God is not the author of confusion!
Yes, God will reveal to us this unwritten mystery via those seven spirits working through seven annointed human men here on the earth. These seven spirits will be carrying out their fifth of seven roles (as written throughout the book of Revelation) and here on earth, they will minister to those seven appointed men who will utter their voices to the Bride as in chapter 10, verses 3 and 4. These spirit messengers are the very same ones that ministered to each one of the star-messengers (earthly men) of each of the seven church ages. The same spirit messengers that Bro. Branham talked to when they ministered to him the revelation of the seven seals. The very same ones that made-up the face of Jesus in the form of a cloud that day in February 1963! Is it so hard for us to think that they could not come down again and speak and minister to more men today? They surely will and after they receive their revelation, these seven natural men will whisper (in that respect) the final secret instructions into the bride's ear! Not spiritually, but physically! It is the rapturing-up of our freshly healed, then Word-capped physical bodies into a glorious body not unlike that of our Bridegroom's!
Just what these seven wonderous men have to say to the Bride/Wife (who hath made herself ready) will be most personal and a secret (discretion in that respect) to the world. It is a Spoken Word message to the Bride/Wife only! It will not be telecast or broadcast on the television or radio or internet. It cannot be withdrawn from the tapes or sermons of Bro. Branham or taught or preached by any of the five-fold ministries (who will have brought us to maturity by that time). Since it is not written, it will be spoken only at that very particular moment in the fullness of time. THEN AND ONLY THEN, will God give those seven permission to Speak The Word!
Even the Old Testament Scriptures present us a very good type of Jesus trumpeting through the Seven Thunders in the story of Joshua and the battle of Jericho. The SEVEN PRIESTS went before THE ARK and marched around the walls of Jericho and on that seventh day the seven priests blew the ram's horns (trumpets) with one long blast, and the children of Israel heard THE SOUND of the TRUMPET, raised their voices in unison, ASCENDED UP every man straight before him, and overtook the city (Joshua 6:4-16)! I think it is important to take note that in verse 10, Joshua commanded the people not to shout or make any noise with their voices, not one word shall proceed out of their mouths.... until the day that He bids them shout!
Another reference in scripture that gives us a glimpse of the rapture is in the book of Acts, chapter 8 verses 26-40. Here we find the Ethiopian Eunuch (a pure gentile, just as the gentile Bride will be pure!) the treasurer of the QUEEN, riding in a chariot (vehicle of transport), desiring to know the Lord Jesus. Philip is sent to him to JOIN HIMSELF TO THE CHARIOT and to expound THE WORD (introduce Jesus) to the eunuch. Philip was later TRANSPORTED to his next assignment. Remember that the Prophet Elijah was raptured-up in a CHARIOT of fire? Are the choice of words God used in these scriptures more than just subliminal hints? A studious reading in the Spirit reveals much more!
In closing, have you ever asked yourself some of these simple questions concerning the days and hours before the rapture takes place?: What will I be saying to those family members, loved ones and friends who are left behind? Will I have to keep silent? For how long? When can I tell them all goodbye? Will I need to go to some certain place? If so, where? At some certain time of day? Will I be clothed or naked? What becomes of my personal property? Real estate? Shall I sign titles and deeds over to someone? What shall I do about my pets? Should I send my kids to school that week? When should I quit my job? Should I turn off all of my utilities in the house? should I cancel the newspaper? Will we embrace or hold hands with our loved ones at the time of departure? Will we be fasting for those last forty days? etc., etc., etc.
These are just a few of many menial, yet reasonable questions that we will need answers for, besides all of the very important spiritual questions we will have. So... we see that we need SOMEONE to answer those questions. Brother Branham's books and tapes can't answer them, the five-fold ministry can't answer them, and the fact is... God is not the author of confusion, So... who will give us these answers?The answer is, as He has shown us in the scriptures: He will certainly send some able ministers just at the right time to answer all our questions and give orderly instructions and best of all, give us and bring us to that level (or degree) of the faith of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, THE FAITH, that He had when He went to the Cross at Calvary. For us a rapturing level of that same faith will whisk away His Bride/Wife to be forever with him.
Yes, the rapture of the saints will be a secret catching away. There will be many, many foolish virgins caught unaware who will not and can not hear what will be spoken. But, there is a secret I can reveal to you! That secret is this: Before you can hear what those seven men 'utter' into your ears, you must first hear them 'THUNDER' in your heart! RECEIVE THE POWER! Yes, the Trump ministry, the third phase of 1st Thes 4:16 (those seven annointed men!) will use much discretion when announcing those powerful Spoken Words into only those elect ears who can hear what the Spirit saith! It is raining now, and it will rain once more, with it will come the thunder; but will you hear it? Some can hear it in the distance, it is fast approaching. Amen and Maranatha!.
By Brother David Curtman Sr.
The much-debated and controversial subject of the Seven Thunders is a topic that is worthy for each Bible-believing Christian to consider and to know just exactly where they stand in this late hour. Either the Seven Thunders have uttered their voices or they have not. I personally believe that they are yet to utter their voices to the Bride of Christ to give her that degree of The Faith needed to rapture her up from this planet into the Spiritual realm awaiting, and also to present to her a list of final instructions as to what and where and how she is to plan and take care of the many last-minute details! In other words, to leave her earthly house in order! The Seven will THUNDER forth His message to her in the respect that it will be a POWERFUL message. Powerful enough to raise the dead in Christ and to give us rapturing faith! But, it will also be a discrete message, hard and even impossible for many to hear.
I am writing this essay to hopefully shine some insight as I see it and know it, on this extremely important subject. I will use the Holy Scriptures first, then, the natural marriage setting and also some plain-old logic and common sense to try and make my points.
Firstly, let us remember that God is not the author of confusion. The rapture of the church will not be anything like the popular 'Left-Behind' series of Christian-world movies. Therefore my main point is that a group of people waiting to be raptured-up, away and out of this world as we know it, will by all means need to be in complete order and unity as to what exactly is going to take place just before and on that glorious day. Yes, the Omnipotent Great God could very well speak any one word at any time He chooses and we would all be raptured in the twinkling of an eye, but we know that He is a God who prepares (I go to prepare a place for you). He has waited over 6000 years for this moment, and He will surely have His bride made-ready even to the very last minute and menial details!
I believe that the Seven Thunders are seven specially annointed men who are living right here among us today. It is very likely that you or I have crossed paths with one or more of these soon to be annointed and appointed men. It is highly possible that our 5-fold ministers who travel to many countries, have had fellowship with one, some or even all seven of those wonderous men. Their time is surely at hand, their ministries very, very close!
The main thing to remember about the Seven Thunders is that the words they will utter to the Bride are not written anywhere, never have they been written, and probably never will be. They are a secret known only to God. We do know that the Lord shared them with John the beloved (who types the Bride) in 96 AD on the Isle of Patmos. Also, we know that Brother Branham seen something in reference to the Seven Thunders on March 24th 1963, but as he told the congregation three times on page 512 of the seals book paragraph 323, "I couldn't make it out, I couldn't tell just what it said, but I know that it was them Seven Thunders uttering themselves right close together, But I couldn't make it out". Thus, Brother Branham did not know what they uttered, that is a fact. Only God knows, that is also a fact.
In Zechariah chapters 3 and 4, we see a type of the Seven Thunders carrying out their role through Joshua the high priest (a type of Christ) and seven men who are WONDERED AT. The Lord tells Joshua that He will ENGRAVE THE GRAVING of the stone (the word) set before him, and then He says, They shall see the plummet (stone of tin, I believe to represent the capstone ministry) in the hand of Zerubbabel (also a type of Christ) with those seven! That is to say, He will reveal a mystery, expound the meaning. He will write on their hearts the revelation to them at that time. At what time? In the day of small things, when I bring forth my servant the BRANCH! (Zech 3:8, 4:10).
In the natural church-wedding, when the ceremony comes to a conclusion as the bride and groom have exchanged their vows and share a kiss, there are certain details of things that the rest of the wedding guests will not have knowledge of, they will share no part of; Intimate things that only the bride and groom have discussed and planned-out involving the consumation of their special day. These things only the bride and groom share AS ONE. With that in mind, wouldn't it be reasonable to think that these same little INTIMATE SECRETS would be shared with our bridegroom on that very special day? And that some very discrete plans and details have been worked out and discussed just prior to the big event? That would surely make sense to me, especially knowing that God is not the author of confusion!
Yes, God will reveal to us this unwritten mystery via those seven spirits working through seven annointed human men here on the earth. These seven spirits will be carrying out their fifth of seven roles (as written throughout the book of Revelation) and here on earth, they will minister to those seven appointed men who will utter their voices to the Bride as in chapter 10, verses 3 and 4. These spirit messengers are the very same ones that ministered to each one of the star-messengers (earthly men) of each of the seven church ages. The same spirit messengers that Bro. Branham talked to when they ministered to him the revelation of the seven seals. The very same ones that made-up the face of Jesus in the form of a cloud that day in February 1963! Is it so hard for us to think that they could not come down again and speak and minister to more men today? They surely will and after they receive their revelation, these seven natural men will whisper (in that respect) the final secret instructions into the bride's ear! Not spiritually, but physically! It is the rapturing-up of our freshly healed, then Word-capped physical bodies into a glorious body not unlike that of our Bridegroom's!
Just what these seven wonderous men have to say to the Bride/Wife (who hath made herself ready) will be most personal and a secret (discretion in that respect) to the world. It is a Spoken Word message to the Bride/Wife only! It will not be telecast or broadcast on the television or radio or internet. It cannot be withdrawn from the tapes or sermons of Bro. Branham or taught or preached by any of the five-fold ministries (who will have brought us to maturity by that time). Since it is not written, it will be spoken only at that very particular moment in the fullness of time. THEN AND ONLY THEN, will God give those seven permission to Speak The Word!
Even the Old Testament Scriptures present us a very good type of Jesus trumpeting through the Seven Thunders in the story of Joshua and the battle of Jericho. The SEVEN PRIESTS went before THE ARK and marched around the walls of Jericho and on that seventh day the seven priests blew the ram's horns (trumpets) with one long blast, and the children of Israel heard THE SOUND of the TRUMPET, raised their voices in unison, ASCENDED UP every man straight before him, and overtook the city (Joshua 6:4-16)! I think it is important to take note that in verse 10, Joshua commanded the people not to shout or make any noise with their voices, not one word shall proceed out of their mouths.... until the day that He bids them shout!
Another reference in scripture that gives us a glimpse of the rapture is in the book of Acts, chapter 8 verses 26-40. Here we find the Ethiopian Eunuch (a pure gentile, just as the gentile Bride will be pure!) the treasurer of the QUEEN, riding in a chariot (vehicle of transport), desiring to know the Lord Jesus. Philip is sent to him to JOIN HIMSELF TO THE CHARIOT and to expound THE WORD (introduce Jesus) to the eunuch. Philip was later TRANSPORTED to his next assignment. Remember that the Prophet Elijah was raptured-up in a CHARIOT of fire? Are the choice of words God used in these scriptures more than just subliminal hints? A studious reading in the Spirit reveals much more!
In closing, have you ever asked yourself some of these simple questions concerning the days and hours before the rapture takes place?: What will I be saying to those family members, loved ones and friends who are left behind? Will I have to keep silent? For how long? When can I tell them all goodbye? Will I need to go to some certain place? If so, where? At some certain time of day? Will I be clothed or naked? What becomes of my personal property? Real estate? Shall I sign titles and deeds over to someone? What shall I do about my pets? Should I send my kids to school that week? When should I quit my job? Should I turn off all of my utilities in the house? should I cancel the newspaper? Will we embrace or hold hands with our loved ones at the time of departure? Will we be fasting for those last forty days? etc., etc., etc.
These are just a few of many menial, yet reasonable questions that we will need answers for, besides all of the very important spiritual questions we will have. So... we see that we need SOMEONE to answer those questions. Brother Branham's books and tapes can't answer them, the five-fold ministry can't answer them, and the fact is... God is not the author of confusion, So... who will give us these answers?The answer is, as He has shown us in the scriptures: He will certainly send some able ministers just at the right time to answer all our questions and give orderly instructions and best of all, give us and bring us to that level (or degree) of the faith of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, THE FAITH, that He had when He went to the Cross at Calvary. For us a rapturing level of that same faith will whisk away His Bride/Wife to be forever with him.
Yes, the rapture of the saints will be a secret catching away. There will be many, many foolish virgins caught unaware who will not and can not hear what will be spoken. But, there is a secret I can reveal to you! That secret is this: Before you can hear what those seven men 'utter' into your ears, you must first hear them 'THUNDER' in your heart! RECEIVE THE POWER! Yes, the Trump ministry, the third phase of 1st Thes 4:16 (those seven annointed men!) will use much discretion when announcing those powerful Spoken Words into only those elect ears who can hear what the Spirit saith! It is raining now, and it will rain once more, with it will come the thunder; but will you hear it? Some can hear it in the distance, it is fast approaching. Amen and Maranatha!.
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Comment by Bro. David Curtman Sr. on September 7, 2009 at 6:06am -
Yes, Bro Orsel those are more good points you have made! I would add that there are at least 5 examples of the 3 phase ministry given in scripture:
1. Moses- Joshua- Seven Priests(blowing rams horns),
2. Samuel- King David-7 Mighty Men (not of the thirty),
3. King Cyrus- Joshua the High Priest- Seven Men (who are wondered at),
4. John the Baptist- Jesus' Apostolic Ministry- 7 Men (chosen to serve tables),
5. Wm. Branham- Jesus' Ascension Gifts- 7 Thunders(seven Men who will Thunder forth).
GOD BLESS ALL WHO HAVE EARS TO HEAR WHAT THE SPIRIT IS SAYING. AMEN!
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Comment by orsel dumanon on September 5, 2009 at 9:27pm - GOOD DAY ....I read 1 Chronicles 13,14, 15, - I preach this in my congreation even in my missionary trip here in our country ....in Chapter `13, King David had called the Israelites and had ask to them that they want to make a worship unto the Lord by bringing the Ark of the Covenant into Jerusalem BUT FAILED because he was doing what is good in his eyes not doing the will of God and the penalty is a death of one of his men.... so the King repented and ask the Will of God so in Chapter 14 ... The enemy is coming unto his kingdom .. here he ask God and ask the Will of God after consulting God then he won the Battles..14:14 ... and on Chapter 15 ... we can see here that he ask the Levites ... and on 1 Chron.15:24 - here their are seven men who carry the trumpets andf when they blow their trumpets ... and on verse 27 - King David was clothed with a robe of fine linens ( from Kingly dress to fine linens ) so when we hear the 7 trumpets ( voice uttered by seven thunders) we will be change....... here is another point . John the Baptist ( forerunner )....Jesus Christ ministry ( 3and half years he preach to 5 thousand many multitudes ) .... BUT after the cross Lord Jesus Christ ministry 40days before he ascended ( he did not preach to multitudes but to his few disciples ... Brother Branham......Shout message ....5 fold ministry. ( perfecting the Bride ) voice of the Archangel .......seven thunders ( seven seals book page 141 p. 276 - 234... every time a victory won .. the name was change ... the name Abram to Abraham.... Simon to Peter.... Saul was a good name king of Israel BUT Saul after conversion was change to Paul.......It will be revealed in the Thunders.....God bless and more on the seven thunders I will share as the Lord leads to help others .. I am open to all discussion and question about the subject seven thunders
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Comment by Bro. David Curtman Sr. on August 31, 2009 at 10:40am
- Yes, Brother Orsel and those are very good points you have made here! I pray God will use this little post as a tool to help open eyes all over the world! Blessings to you and your family and those who assemble in the Butuan church, Maranatha!!!
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Comment by orsel dumanon on August 30, 2009 at 10:45pm
- yes my Brother I preach it in Butuan Church 3 phase of the ministry today as I used the the 3 sections of the Tabernacle of Moses outer court - type the ministry of the ( shout message ) brother Branham, inner court ( type the voice of the archangel - true 5 fold ministry) to perfect the Bride, and the Holies of Holiest -type the 7 thunder messages that will uttered their voices for a change of our body in the fullness before the rapture and it is a short andd quick message and Brother Branham said it will take a month or so...very short not too long and see the rebuilding of the temple first return it takes ,many years second return it takes years but the 3rd return of Nehimeah it takes only a short time in contructions the wall
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Comment by Bro. David Curtman Sr. on August 27, 2009 at 3:22pm
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That is just wonderful Brother Orsel! Thank you for your nice comments and I pray that this article will help many endtime message believers to know the importance of the day we are living. For He is a LIVING God who did not take a hiatus or a vacation when Bro. Branham passed from the scene!
May God bless all the Bride members who will have ears to hear what The Spirit is saying in THIS hour and THIS Day! Amen.
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Comment by orsel dumanon on August 25, 2009 at 9:24pm
- Yes my Brother David Curtman I believe with all my heart about the coming of the 7thunders ( messages for the rapturing faith, as I read the books of the prophet ) .restoration of the missing limbs before the change of the Body into glorious one.... Yes I say Amen that they are alive today waiting for the appointed time to thunder ( give the message or uttered their voices together as like what Brother Branham said in the 7th seal ...1,2,3,4,5,6,7, they are spelling out together so.... there is a short and quick message to catch the Bride away .. in my study of the seven seal book I am convinced that the seven thunders are 7 men coming before the rapture.... God bless
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